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Monday, March 17, 2014

The woods are lovely, dark and deep

Readers with long memories or a quick hand with a search engine may recall that over the years I've had run-ins with various Zionists and assorted American, Israeli and other right-wing nutjobs. I've been called a "pathetic little neo-Nazi cunt" by Benjamin Kerstein and a "tool of the neofascist kleptocrat machinery" by some other Zionist also called - coincidentally - Ben. I have to say that none of the numpties at BareNakedIslam ever came up with anything that wonderful, though one or two of them have threatened to beat me up, which is a pretty empty threat when they live in Arizona.

I was beginning to think that nobody cared any more, but then, out of nowhere, this message appeared in my Facebook inbox from someone called Kenny Glassman:

Asshole. Get an education.

As Kenny's Facebook profile showed him to be a "self-employed psychologist" in Dee Why, New South Wales, Australia, I responded with:

Hello Kenny. Sorry for the delay in replying as your message was dumped into the junk folder as it consisted entirely of abuse. I am honoured indeed that you could find time in your busy schedule of masturbation and substance abuse, or whatever soi-disant "self-employed psychologists" do in Australia, to send me such a billet-doux, even if you were too rushed to suggest why you singled me out for your praise. Of course, perhaps I wasn't singled out but was merely one of a cast of thousands to whom you send drunken abuse. Who knows? Or, indeed, cares? You can rest assured that I have had a perfectly good education, thank you, at several institutions all of which are superior to anything your rebadged penal colony can provide. Now back you go to your cock and cocaine, or whatever.

Not exactly Oscar Wilde, but I didn't have much to go on. Still more than I had with the message from one Tony Riley which arrived at the same time (I don't know whether by coincidence or collusion) and read simply:

Asshole.

I sent Tony a similar reply to Kenny's, shorn of the latter's personal touches. I assumed that they had seem some comment or other of mine on an article somewhere, probably the Times of Israel or Haaretz, and this was their way of responding when they had no actual reply to make to whatever it was I had said. (And indeed I encountered Tony in a Haaretz thread a few days later and gave him a wave.)

Hello Tony. Sorry for the delay in replying as your message was dumped into the junk folder as it consisted only of the word "Asshole". I am honoured indeed that you could find time in your busy schedule of masturbation and substance abuse to send me such a billet-doux, even if not to suggest why you singled me out for your praise. Of course, perhaps I wasn't singled out but was merely one of a cast of thousands to whom you send drunken abuse. Who knows? Or, indeed, cares?

A few hours later I received this:

No problem. I suspect that being an asshole is a fairly hectic existence. Only you would know, you Jew-hating cocksucker.

A few days later he followed it up with:

Why does a Jew-hating asshole, like you, belong to JVP? Why does a Jew-hating cunt, like you, use Jewish inventions such as Facebook? It must be because you're a Jew-hating, hypocritical asshole, you cunt.

(NOTE: "JVP" is Jewish Voices For Peace, an organisation which does exactly what it says on the tin. Facebook was created by Mark Zuckerberg who is only Jewish if you believe "Jewish" to be a racial rather than a religious descriptor (he is an atheist).)

Naturally I replied:

Why do you assume I belong to JVP? Why do you believe I hate Jews? Why do you refer to Facebook as a "Jewish" invention? (Only anti-Semites attribute religions to inanimate objects.) Why do crazy Zionists invariably stoop to abuse to cover up their lack of sensible arguments? Why do they always refer to their targets as "cunts"? Were they all scarred by early sexual inadequacy? And why in your case do you conflate ""asshole" and "cunt"? Did you have adequacy issues with both genders? How fascinating. Perhaps that's why you also refer to me as a "cocksucker". If only I had time to ponder what a fucked-up piece of fascist trash you are, and whether you hate women more or less than gays. Sadly, as you point out, I have a fairly hectic existence which precludes my wasting too much time on your semi-literate ramblings. Mwah!

And received this priceless reply in turn:

Whatever, you cunt. I'll have to ask my (beautiful) Israeli wife, you asshole. I've read your blog, and, although you might not realise it, you do hate Jews.You cock.

Wow. Just wow. I hate Jews without realising it. I'm a kind of deep cover anti-Semite, like the Russian agents in Telefon. One day, the phone will ring, a voice will read out some Robert Frost, and in a hypnotised trance I will drive a truck bomb I never knew I possessed into a synagogue. Oh, that's marvellous: a deep-cover anti-Semite. Not such a rolling phase as The Other Ben's (more on the level of Kerstein) but a wonderfully cracked concept.

Sadly I was unable to reply to him directly to thank him for the good laugh he gave me, as the clown blocked me (standard operating procedure for Zionists losing an argument who know they've just written something that makes them look ridiculous). Still it seems he reads my blog, so maybe he will know what a hilarious horse's ass he has shown himself to be. Let's hear it for Tony Riley. He may not know a cock from a cunt, or an asshole from a cocksucker, but he can recognise an anti-Semite when he imagines one.

Now contrast that with the delightful email I received from Eric, who was puzzled by some of the things I had said about Bonni Benstock-Intall:

Greetings,

I discovered your blog while conducting a search about the author of the barenakedislam site. You mention numerous times in your blog that she is a holocaust denier, Hilter supporter, and anti-Semitic. I am unable to located any of her writings with respect to Hitler, the holocaust, or anti-Semitism. Could you provide me with some examples that drew you to this conclusion? Please don't bother sending any of her writings in which she dresses down members of the Jewish community who either support Islam or Jewish people who support Palestine over Israel. I have already reviewed those and do not find them to be anti-Semitic. I have also read your articles with respect to her and her blog and could not draw the same conclusions that you have. FYI, I am American and of Jewish decent. I cannot claim to be Jewish since I have not been in a temple for the purpose of prayer since I was 13. So please, any supporting information with regard to your claims would be nice. By the way, have you ever tried discussing your feelings with her directly? I understand she is quick to respond to emails using the address listed on her blog.

Thanks,

Eric


I replied:

Hi Eric, and sorry for the delay in replying: this email address isn't my main one so I don't check it every day.

I must say you've been far more polite and reasonable than most of the folk who visit BNI and disagree with me, so I'll happily do my best to provide the links you need. You may still disagree with me but at least you'll see where I'm coming from.

First of all, I have raised all these points with Bonni, who ignores them and leaves it to her small flock of tamely loyal commenters to fire off the insults, death treats and such. I've commented on her site a few times, using slightly different names, and eventually I've been banned each time (most recently for saying something Bonni perceived to be supportive of President Obama. I do mostly support him in fact, though the comment she took umbrage at wasn't meant to be complimentary.) Anyway, the most recent occasion on which I set out my stall on her blog was:

Rob - DECEMBER 13, 2013 @ 8:26 AM
Bonni – I call you a Nazi because you have posted that Germany needs Nazis to deal with its “Muslim problem”, quite apart from your calls for Americans with brown skins to wear signs to show whether they are or aren’t Muslims. Your calls for the overthrow of Britain’s and America’s elected governments and the execution of judges and journalists who say things you disagree with: all straight from the Nazi playbook too.

The comment continues with replies to other commenters.

Taking the various points in turn: this post contains the suggestion "As in the UK, if you speak out against the growing Islamization in Germany, you are called a Nazi. Well, I’m afraid it just might take a few Nazis to get rid of the Muslim plague in Europe."

I can't see how calling for even "a few" Nazis - in Germany of all places - can be seen as anything other than support for a return of the Nazi party. However, let's not stop there. Greece's Golden Dawn party are famous for Holocaust denial (or see here) and support for Hitler In short, they are modern day Nazis.

Here is a post from Bonni about the Golden Dawn. She comments

MAY 12, 2012 @ 2:40 AM
Nobama, I was not familiar with Golden Dawn until I posted this story. But if, as you say, they have a problem with Jews, then so be it. As long as they are not doing anything publicly to disparage Jews or threaten them, and are focusing all their attention on the Muslim problem, I’m OK with that. I can’t help but remember that we were allied with the Russians during WWII to fight the Nazis, then when the war was over, we went back to a cold war with them.

If/when the Muslim problem goes away and they start turning their wrath on Jews, I will be the first to condemn them. Politics and wars make for strange bedfellows.

So she's quite cool with the Holocaust denial and the admiration for Hitler, because right now they're not shoving Jews into gas chambers and they hate Muslims even more than Jews. So that's all right then: in the same way that a return of the Nazis to Germany to solve the "Muslim problem" is to be welcomed despite the long-term prospects for the Jewish population. I need hardly remind you that one of the reasons for Hitler's original success was that most non-Jews thought he wasn't a danger unless you were a Jew, and mostly they didn't care about Jews. Allowing them back because now they're targeting Muslims first seems historically illiterate and highly dangerous.

In a later comment on the same post Bonni remarks

"I say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Besides, I doubt there are more than a handful of Jews in Greece."

Which says a lot about how much she cares for Jews, for all that she claims to be one (I have no evidence either way but I'm inclined to doubt it).

In this post I explain how Bonni whitewashes several features of Hitler's persecution of the Jews, and totally denies the persecution and extermination of gays. Of course, the Holocaust claimed 11 million victims of whom 6 million were Jews, the rest being made up of the disabled, gays, Jehovah's Witnesses and assorted "leftists" (Socialists, Communists, trade unionists).

You describe her attitude to Jews with whose opinions she disagrees as "dressing-down". Bonni is more open about it. I intended to link a post from 2 March in which she made the point repeatedly that her Jewishness allowed her to make remarks about Haredim trying to avoid the Israeli draft which from anyone else would be held to be antisemitic. However, I can't find the post even in her archive, which may mean she's had complaints from actual Jewish groups and has deleted it. (NOTE: I've found it now: here.)

Also on antisemitism, see this post. Leaving aside the question of whether Soros really supported the Nazis (he was only a child at the time and had limited options as a Jew if he wished to survive) the pictures showing him as "The Puppet Master" and operating Barack Obama as a ventriloquist's dummy tap into antisemitic tropes which have been around since before The Protocols of the Elders of Ziyon, of Jews controlling the world's governments in secret.

Despite the fact that she knows (and has posted the fact) that Judenrats were Councils of Jewish Elders set up by the Nazis to assist with dealing with Jews, Bonni uses "Judenrat" as a general term of abuse (as in "Jew-rat") for Jews she considers insufficiently Zionist. The Nazis of course routinely referred to Jews as rats.

Here she not only refers to liberal Jews as "rats" but helpfully publishes a picture of "The Judenrat and the Nazi Rat" with a caricature Jew sporting a Swastika.

In this comment she considers that "liberal Jews" were complicit in their own extermination and aren't really Jews anyway:

barenakedislam December 18, 2011 @ 1:57 am
Mark, liberal Jews are blind and stupid. 78% of them in the US voted for the Muslim president. How do you think it was so easy to get them into death camps? They don’t recognize their enemy even when he is staring them in the face. Liberal Jews aren’t really Jews because they worship liberalism.

Here is a post from March 2010 entitled "How Liberal Jews are enabling a second Holocaust", in which she repeats the following text:

"As sickening as it sounds, Jewish liberals see their fellow Jews as noble when they are victims being led helplessly into the gas chambers, but recoil at the thought of Jews who refuse to be victims, and actually take actions to defend themselves."

Finally, read this post of mine. I must say it does seem an unlikely coincidence that a supporter of Nazism and a Holocaust denier should just happen to share a birthday with Adolf Hitler, giving her a perfect excuse for celebration of that day. It may be quite genuine, as indeed may her Jewish identity: but forgive me if I am somewhat sceptical.

I hope that helps?

Regards, Rob

It's all a question of style and attitude. I don't suppose Eric's views chime with my own any more than Tony Riley's do, but Eric is genuinely interested in why I wrote what I did. He hasn't replied, and I don't imagine I've converted him to my point of view, but he may have a few things to ponder regarding Bonni. Tony (and Kenny) couldn't even be bothered bestirring their fat cyber-asses enough to tell me why they thought I was an asshole. Just a pair of online bullies with no interest in anyone but themselves.

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