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Thursday, July 26, 2012

Bonni the Nazi Imbecile (BNI) tells flagrant lies to divert attention away from an interesting truth

There's another good recent example of Bonni (Benstock-Intall, proud supporter of terrorist attacks on the USA) lying in her headlines about a story she links (because who reads further than the headlines? Not any of her regular sheep, that's for sure.

What does the headline Iran to legalize marriage for girls under 10 suggest to you, reader of a normal middle-of-the-road blog? My guess is that you think Iran is about to make marriage to girls under 10 legal, right?

Wrong. (Credulous fool!) It means that a member of Iran's parliamentary legal committee has said that he would like to propose such legislation when the committee is under his chairmanship (it isn't clear whether he currently chairs it but as the report describes him only as a "spokesman" it seems unlikely). He reckons that Islamic religious law permits marriage from the age of nine. As the legal age for marriage was moved from nine to "the onset of puberty" (currently interpreted as 13 for girls and 15 for boys) by Iran shortly after the Islamic Revolution, he may find there is little appetite for moving it back. President Ahmadinejad, for example, favours delaying marriage until 16.

So Bonni lies about what the story says. She also illustrates it with this unrelated photograph:

She describes it in a comment as "allegedly that was a group wedding in Gaza". Another commenter immediately corrects her:

The photo depicts grooms with flower girls. The brides are out of sight. A trusted anti Islam acquaintance of mine translated the dialogue from the original video this photo was taken from. The photo has been misrepresented for years.

Her response is extremely revealing:

TH, it may or may not be, I have heard strong arguments on both sides from Arab speakers, but it is very representative of Islam.

In other words, it fits in with my prejudices about Islam so I don't care whether the picture is doubtful or downright phoney.

FWIW there are many pictures of this wedding on the web, and some of them show a line of several hundred heavily-veiled adult women, who certainly seem more likely to be the brides.

Some of Bonni's dutiful sheep go even further:

I think they are brides. Why would grooms be in line and holding hands with flowergirls? It doesn’t make sense and illustrates that even muslims know on a basic level, their own depravity in the eyes of the non-muslim world. I smell a taqiyya-engorged rat.

You have to love the way "randy63ism" believes he is the final arbiter of what "makes sense" about a picture of a wedding in Gaza. He's right about the rat, of course, though it's Bonni who is the rodent bearing disease and lies.

Let's dig a little further. Trimming away Bonni's fake story and fake picture, the original article says that some conservative Muslim clerics think girls should be allowed to marry from the age of nine. Well, this article points to the verses in the Qu'ran, and the episodes in the Prophet's life, which are used to justify that interpretation. But it also mentions this:

An ancient Jewish scripture called the Mishnah decrees that “A girl three years and a day is betrothed by intercourse,” therefore the law allows men to marry girls as young as 3 if they have sex with the girls (Weinberg & Margalit, 2007). The Mishnah is thought to be the first Rabbinical text and is considered a major part of Jewish law.

That reference is to this paper. The interesting bit is on pages 10-11:

According to the Mishnah, a woman begins her life as a sexual being, with full legal ramifications, at the age of three years and a day: 'A girl three years and a day is betrothed by intercourse, and if a levir has intercourse with her, he acquires her. And others are liable on her account [for transgression of the law against] adultery.' [Sifra Qod 9:11 (92a); b Qidd 19a; b Sanh 52b]

Now I'm not suggesting, and neither are any of the authors of those papers, that Jews all - or even mostly - believe that raping a three-year-old girl is an acceptable form of marriage today. It is, however, justified in a revered religious text: that this text is no longer used for guidance is excellent news, but not to the point. The point is, that the texts used for similar justification of marriage in Islam (albeit by agreement rather than rape, and of girls three times as old) are also by no means universally taken as a guide: which is why the age for marriage in Iran is thirteen, not nine. I would be surprised if a search of Judaism's ultra-orthodox crazies (the ones who insist that women ride in the backs of buses with their hair covered, aand who preach that the murder of non-Jews is a religious duty) didn't turn up at least one nutter prepared to justify the teaching of the Mishrah.

To Bonni and her sheep, though, and indeed to thousands of other ignorant Islam-haters, the fact that the religious justification exists means that Islam "encourages paedophilia". The fact that if one takes that attitude, Judaism "encourages" far worse paedophilia is passed over as somehow irrelevant, if not downright anti-semitic. (To be fair, I doubt whether one Islamophobe in a hundred thousand even knows of the existence of the Mishrah teaching: their demagogues keep it conveniently quiet.)

To sum up: Bonni finds (or is sent) an article about what conservative Iranian imams would like. She reports that as though it were imminently going to become law, and illustrates it with a picture which she knows to be from about a thousand kilometres away, and probably bogus to boot. She trumpets the justification of child sex in Islam (even though it has few takers) and sweeps under the rug the justification in Judaism of far viler child abuse (equally repugnant to most Jews). And she does all this with no shame, simply because she can: she knows that most of her readers won't read the comments (and looking at the comments, most of them can't remember what was written three or four comments ago anyway). She knows they won't check the stories she links, because they look to her do do their thinking for them. And as for doing any research on their own: come ON, that's beyond even Bonni's massive intellect.

A taqiyya-engorged rat indeed.


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